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confirming it ises they're going to take the trillion dollars save from the drawdowns of wars in iraq and afghanistan, apply that ta the biden framework. i talked to harry reid's office today. couldn't get a yes or no answer on that. i did get out of leadership aides they're not going to impb kblud the entitlement reforms that president obama had offered. there's no raising of the medicare eligibility age. there's no means testing. you're looking at steep domestic discretionary cuts.ç >> sounds as though what harry reid is you can tag about doing is taking the most volatile issues off the table for now. but is he putting up enough that's actually hard wired because if you talk about notional savings from wars that haven't been drawn down yet, a lot of things can happen between now and then. >> that savings started showing up when president obama presented his first budget it's always been seen as a little gimmicky. the house guys have been very reluctant to count it. it's not money that we're planning to spend. after their guys felt like they were sort of misled during the cr fight about how much w
confirming it ises they're going to take the trillion dollars save from the drawdowns of wars in iraq and afghanistan, apply that ta the biden framework. i talked to harry reid's office today. couldn't get a yes or no answer on that. i did get out of leadership aides they're not going to impb kblud the entitlement reforms that president obama had offered. there's no raising of the medicare eligibility age. there's no means testing. you're looking at steep domestic discretionary cuts.ç...
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includes cuts but nothing to entitlements, and savings in part from ending the wars eventually in iraq and afghanistan, about a trillion there. highly questionable. speaker boehner's plan has two steps in it. totals $1.2 trillion in cuts. has a six to nine month debt ceiling and cuts and another debt ceiling mechanism next year sometime.ç david, seems like the president is basically saying all i want, get this out of the way before the incomes election. in that interest i'll give you what you want, basically? >> the democrats, without, and republican. s have drawn a line in the sand. problem is, it's inside it's republican tent. it's basically up to the bedroom. saying, we'll given you cuts, and part of reid's plan is $1.2 trillion in defense and non-defense discretionary cuts. we don't know what the cuts will be. may be real cuts in real problems, that the president and other democrats care a lot about. they have basically yielded to republicans on a big conceptual point. linking, lifting the debt ceiling to spending cuts and -- >> two things republicans still want. a dollar for dollar cut in spend
includes cuts but nothing to entitlements, and savings in part from ending the wars eventually in iraq and afghanistan, about a trillion there. highly questionable. speaker boehner's plan has two steps in it. totals $1.2 trillion in cuts. has a six to nine month debt ceiling and cuts and another debt ceiling mechanism next year sometime.ç david, seems like the president is basically saying all i want, get this out of the way before the incomes election. in that interest i'll give you what you...
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talk about afghanistan. the thing that confused or upset me, a lot of people with questions about afghanistan, even after the phased withdrawal, he'll end his presidency with substantially more troop there's than when we went in and it's very hard to see people on any side who can really define what success looks like. i know you've reported extensively on this for your books and "the post" and what do you make of it at this point? >> it's very -- if you step back, it's very unusual what the president's done here. he said we're going to start withdrawing before the end of the war. and if you get military leaders on sodium pen thal truth sear yum and say, ho do you really feel like this, they say, we'll go along because he's the commander in chief. they are dumbfounded that we had a strategy, and an objective, namely, counterinsurgency. protect the people, nation-bidding in nation-bi nation-building in afghanistan. we've gone to a strategy, really, let's get out. so maybe it's going to work, but it could back
talk about afghanistan. the thing that confused or upset me, a lot of people with questions about afghanistan, even after the phased withdrawal, he'll end his presidency with substantially more troop there's than when we went in and it's very hard to see people on any side who can really define what success looks like. i know you've reported extensively on this for your books and "the post" and what do you make of it at this point? >> it's very -- if you step back, it's very...
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basically, how do you avoid the pitfalls of vietnam in afghanistan. >> he inherited afghanistan and iraq the way nixon inherited vietnam, 535,000 troops in vietnam when he got into the white house. bush i learned the lessons. there was a big push from the neoconservatives to go to baghdad. bush i did that and said this is what everybody signed on for. we are stopping at the iraqi border. he got the lesson right. >> for the record, george w. bush spit out his coffee and wept for it. marvin, go ahead. >> i agree with you, pat. the relevant point is vietnam was in his point. he did not want to go too far or get trapped in baghdad. this is one of the most fascinating things, you can get in on the act, too. the way one of the presidents after another, vietnam sits there just hanging around and even if you wanted to dump it, you couldn't. >> i asked obama about this a year ago and he maintains he's free of the vietnam. >> i agree with you. he's the one sitting there saying i'm not doing ten years. i'm not doing $1 trillion. it's about vietnam. it's about getting into a steal mate. >> yet, we s
basically, how do you avoid the pitfalls of vietnam in afghanistan. >> he inherited afghanistan and iraq the way nixon inherited vietnam, 535,000 troops in vietnam when he got into the white house. bush i learned the lessons. there was a big push from the neoconservatives to go to baghdad. bush i did that and said this is what everybody signed on for. we are stopping at the iraqi border. he got the lesson right. >> for the record, george w. bush spit out his coffee and wept for it....
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today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing war in oil-richç monarchies that we depend on or energy resources. our specialist today, an award-winning journalist who spent four decades coving terrorism, turmoil and most recently the drive for democracy in the islamic world. her new book "rock the casbah" documenting you new counterjihad. we welcome you to the conversation. tell wlaus a countergee shaud? >> the most important wave of empowerment in the early 21st century. we soo it play out in the uprising across the arab world but also happen kind of culture change, ridiculing extremists. plays out among playwrighting and p
today harry reid counting savings in his plan from our drawdown in iraq and afghanistan. that sounds good. banking and expected trillion dollars that won't be spent when we withdraw from iraq and afghanistan. the only number crunchers say think can get that is with withdrawals. the plan is raising broader questions about our role in the middle east. the future in the region, and every president's propensity to proclaim their desire to get us out of the middle east while escalating and investing...
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obviously the americans here in afghanistan, very worried about what's going on in washington. many of these men and women haven't seen their families for several months. many won't see them for a full year and they're wondering if those family members are going to be getting those paychecks. they're risking their lives here in afghanistan, and they're wondering why their congressmen and women back home can't come up with a decision and can't help them actually receive their paychecks. alex? >> so, atia, then did they get reassurance at all? >> reporter: well, that was the interesting part. i wasn't actually down in kandahar with them, but from the reporters who were out there, they said admiral mullen didn't really have an answer for them. but what he did say he kind of made a joke out of it and said you should probably write letters to your congressmen and women. and that received chuckles from the crowd, because they realized as well, how ridiculous that is, because they're in a war zone. they're here risking their lives. but at the same time, they're also worried about thei
obviously the americans here in afghanistan, very worried about what's going on in washington. many of these men and women haven't seen their families for several months. many won't see them for a full year and they're wondering if those family members are going to be getting those paychecks. they're risking their lives here in afghanistan, and they're wondering why their congressmen and women back home can't come up with a decision and can't help them actually receive their paychecks. alex?...
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thanks so much, geoff. >>> we want to turn now to a developing story in afghanistan. the taliban claiming responsibility for a suicide attack in kandahar that has killed that city's mayor, the second assassination of a top official in the southern taliban stronghold just this month comes just two weeks after the killing of the half brother of president hamid karzai. the late mayor had been mentioned as a possible successor to karzai's brother. the spokesman said the mayor had been a target for a long time and was attacked to avenge the death of two children who they claim were killed during demolition work in the city. >>> still ahead onw "way too early." a play at the plate in the 19th inning where the umpire quite simply wanted to get back to the hotel and go to bed. wait till you see this one. >>> and we continue our celebration of the second anniversary of "way too early" with a look at some of the great moments of the last year and a mystery celebrity caller who's up watching this program each and every morning. we'll get her on the phone and get a check on weath
thanks so much, geoff. >>> we want to turn now to a developing story in afghanistan. the taliban claiming responsibility for a suicide attack in kandahar that has killed that city's mayor, the second assassination of a top official in the southern taliban stronghold just this month comes just two weeks after the killing of the half brother of president hamid karzai. the late mayor had been mentioned as a possible successor to karzai's brother. the spokesman said the mayor had been a...
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. >> our soldiers in afghanistan repeatedly asked admiral mullen yesterday, will we get paid? will our families get your checks? shame on the republicans for making that happen. in battle, when you accidentally shoot your own, it's called friendly fire. when you deliberately shoot your own it's called fraging. republicans stop fraging the american economy and american people. >> luke russert is live on the capitol hill with the latest. we have the senate and house now working hard what's happening? >> right now as you saw, richard, there is a spirited debate on the house floor about harry reid's bill. speaker boehner taking an interesting step. the house will, in fact, vote down harry reid's proposal to raise the nation's debt limit. interesting because harry reid says it is still not a finished product. speaker boehner and eric cantor taking a symbolic step showing the harry reid proposal has nowhere of going in the house. that should go about 2:30 p.m. mitch mcconnell and harry reid spoke on the senate floor back and forth. mitch mcconnell saying in order for there to be a c
. >> our soldiers in afghanistan repeatedly asked admiral mullen yesterday, will we get paid? will our families get your checks? shame on the republicans for making that happen. in battle, when you accidentally shoot your own, it's called friendly fire. when you deliberately shoot your own it's called fraging. republicans stop fraging the american economy and american people. >> luke russert is live on the capitol hill with the latest. we have the senate and house now working hard...
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we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses really willing to invest in afghanistan? >> they are. one of the most recent projects is with kate spade. kate spade has gone into afghanistan in the last year. they surveyed what tn opportunities are there for marketable products and going te marketableable products, and afghanistan has the third largest producer of cashmere, and they want a product made by afghan women and sold in kate spade stores here and online and they are willing to invest a lot of money i might add, but they have the support of the u.s. government and the u.s. military to give them access. >> anita mcbride, what a pleasure to see you again. >> thank you so much. >>> what political stories will be making headlines
we know that for afghanistan. as we begin to draw down, what thauz that mean for their path to peace and stability and progress? american businesses will tell you if we want them to invest there, they won't do it without the presence of american security, that's very important for our government to know. >> are american businesses really willing to invest in afghanistan? >> they are. one of the most recent projects is with kate spade. kate spade has gone into afghanistan in the last...
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, this is his 15th trip to afghanistan. and probably one of the last ones. i'm pretty sure this is one of the last questions that he expected, but apparently it was the biggest question that he received among the sailors, the soldiers, the airmen and the marines. he was quite honest with them when he said he didn't know what this meant for their paycheck. these are men and women in afghanistan, here months at a time, sometimes years at a time away from their families, expecting a paycheck, expecting a paycheck for fighting for their country. on top of worrying about ieds and rpgs, now they have to worry about whether they will be paid and their families will be provided for. >> since we're talking about this and luke was talking about what's happening on the hill, are there a lot of questions coming from those serving in the military, contractors that are in afghanistan, war theaters abroad, what have you heard in terms of what's happening here in washington? >> reporter: what most americans here that aren't in the armed fo
, this is his 15th trip to afghanistan. and probably one of the last ones. i'm pretty sure this is one of the last questions that he expected, but apparently it was the biggest question that he received among the sailors, the soldiers, the airmen and the marines. he was quite honest with them when he said he didn't know what this meant for their paycheck. these are men and women in afghanistan, here months at a time, sometimes years at a time away from their families, expecting a paycheck,...
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the afghanistan war, the iraq war are winding down. the office of management budget, congressional budget said if you take $1 trillion it will lower the debt by $1 trillion and allow us to take an additional $200 billion in interest savings, that's what we have in our bill. it's all been done by the nonpartisan congressional budget office. i can't imagine the fact they have voted for, let's see, 230 republicans voted for that in the so-called budget. 40 republicans voted for it. why is it suddenly something they don't want? anyway -- [ question inaudible ] >> your math is terrific. can we get those four is 57 and we've got three more. we get 60. the issue has been now for a week or so a trigger. if the joint committee doesn't come up with a result, what should happen? we've been willing to say that we're happy if we don't arrive at the budget goals with the joint committee that certain things should happen. we've been willing to say there could be a seqestration as long as this includes revenues. we have billionaires and millionaires a
the afghanistan war, the iraq war are winding down. the office of management budget, congressional budget said if you take $1 trillion it will lower the debt by $1 trillion and allow us to take an additional $200 billion in interest savings, that's what we have in our bill. it's all been done by the nonpartisan congressional budget office. i can't imagine the fact they have voted for, let's see, 230 republicans voted for that in the so-called budget. 40 republicans voted for it. why is it...
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making headlines today, the mayor of kandahar is the second elected official to be assassinated in afghanistan in only two weeks. president car save's half brother was the first. officials say that the mayor was killed today inside a government compound by a suicide bomber. >>> britain has officially recognized libya's main opposition group as the legitimate government. >>> meanwhile in tripoli the convicted lockerbie bomber was spotted in a featured seat at a progadhafi rally. he was released from a scottish prison on so-called compassionate grounds nearly two years ago after his lawyers argued that he was dying of prostate cancer. he's apaurptly still very much with us. 270 people died on pan am flight 103 over scotland more than 22 years ago. >>> and ground zero first responders sufferingç from cancr will not be compensated by the government for their illness. a federal medical team reports there is not enough evidence to show a cause and effect connection linking their cancer directly to their exposure to dust and debris. the finding means as of now they do not qualify for federal benefit
making headlines today, the mayor of kandahar is the second elected official to be assassinated in afghanistan in only two weeks. president car save's half brother was the first. officials say that the mayor was killed today inside a government compound by a suicide bomber. >>> britain has officially recognized libya's main opposition group as the legitimate government. >>> meanwhile in tripoli the convicted lockerbie bomber was spotted in a featured seat at a progadhafi...
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we have a tax cut that includes getting out of afghanistan and iraq, you oppose the high-end tax cuts and leave social security and medicare alone. one thing that bothers me, they talk about shared sacrifice. i don't think it's shared sacrifice saying somebody making $700,000 a year has to pay a few thousand more taxes, but a 90-year-old woman has to get tax increases. she shouldn't be a part of it. if they leave open the tax question we can accept, i'll accept and vote for more severe reductions in housing and education and the environment i would ideally like. that's a deal that is not fun for anybody. responsible people can support. it can only happen if mcconnell and reid will compromise. will john boehner stand up to his right wing and join us in an effort to make it whole. >> barney frank, i appreciate your time. speaker boehner's speech made it clear. what about the impact of his propo proposed legislation to his own district? >>> welcome back to "the ed show." let's take a closer look what john boehner's bill will do in your own backyard. he represents the 8th district in ohio
we have a tax cut that includes getting out of afghanistan and iraq, you oppose the high-end tax cuts and leave social security and medicare alone. one thing that bothers me, they talk about shared sacrifice. i don't think it's shared sacrifice saying somebody making $700,000 a year has to pay a few thousand more taxes, but a 90-year-old woman has to get tax increases. she shouldn't be a part of it. if they leave open the tax question we can accept, i'll accept and vote for more severe...
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troops in afghanistan have a question for the nation's top military man. will they get paid? his answer, coming up on msnbc saturday. [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your tired achy feet. for locations, see drscholls.com. thank you... ♪ going to the bank without going to the bank... that's a step forward. with chase quickdeposit on your smartphone, you just snap a picture, hit send and done. chase quickdeposit. take a step forward and chase what matters. ♪ we just keep on keepin' on ♪ ♪ keep on >>> well kol back to msnbc saturday. we have new word from president obama this morning on the debt crisis
troops in afghanistan have a question for the nation's top military man. will they get paid? his answer, coming up on msnbc saturday. [ barks ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ whistles ] ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ [ ting! ] [ male announcer ] travelers can help you protect the things you care about and save money with multi-policy discounts. are you getting the coverage you need and the discounts you deserve? for an agent or quote, call 800-my-coverage or visit travelers.com. dr. scholl's custom fit...
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over the past ten years, 18,000 americans wounded in iraq and afghanistan have been treated here. critical care nurse rosemary ettinger is inspired by their spirit and determination. >> young soldiers, all they want to do is get better to get back to their troops. >> reporter: a scandal broke out for poor housing conditions for outpatients which led to improved care military wise. and where do the wounded go now? the more seriously injured will be moved to a new high-tech rehab center at bethesda naval hospital. and what happens to walter reed? the 113 acres here is prime real estate. the city of washington gets most of it for commercial development and housing. even a center for the homeless. >> but the colonel is confident the legacy of walter reed will live on. >> once you've been at walter reed, you can't get walter reed out of you. it's a part of your spirit. >> walter reed closing its doors officially in about a month and will shift its operations to a new facility that will be called walter reed national medical center with campuses in maryland and virginia. >>> still ahead
over the past ten years, 18,000 americans wounded in iraq and afghanistan have been treated here. critical care nurse rosemary ettinger is inspired by their spirit and determination. >> young soldiers, all they want to do is get better to get back to their troops. >> reporter: a scandal broke out for poor housing conditions for outpatients which led to improved care military wise. and where do the wounded go now? the more seriously injured will be moved to a new high-tech rehab...
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won't have the snappy dialogue we're used to here in the states, but it is expected to premiere in afghanistan's largest television network, so there is that. while i'm not totally convinced that they'll be able to care the michael scold torch, i do have a bigger concern. who will play dwight? >>> next, beer brats and business advice. we'll take you into the man cave. ♪ born to be wild uh-huh. jeff! honey, i can't walk any faster. [ female announcer ] oscar mayer deli fresh turkey comes in a clear pack... [ cellphone beeps ] [ jeff ] ooh. thanks hun! [ female announcer ] ...so the freshness you see is what you taste. ♪ it doesn't get better than this ♪ [ female announcer ] ...so the freshness you see is what you taste. purina cat chow helps you well-being. we're all striving for it. nurture it in your cat with a full family of excellent nutrition and helpful resources. purina cat chow. share a better life. at liberty mutual, we know how much you count on your car and how much the people in your life count on you. that's why we offer accident forgiveness, man: good job. where your price won
won't have the snappy dialogue we're used to here in the states, but it is expected to premiere in afghanistan's largest television network, so there is that. while i'm not totally convinced that they'll be able to care the michael scold torch, i do have a bigger concern. who will play dwight? >>> next, beer brats and business advice. we'll take you into the man cave. ♪ born to be wild uh-huh. jeff! honey, i can't walk any faster. [ female announcer ] oscar mayer deli fresh turkey...
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many of us who voted for it who were against the iraq war, were against credit card funding of the afghanistan war, we're against what congress voted for, americans voted for it and we have to pay our bills. >> congressional members said they met with the president a month ago and they asked him, are you going to throw us under the bus? and they're telling me tonight they were thrown under the bus. do you feel that way? >> you know what, what i'm hoping is this. when the president is talking about medicare and social security, it's about making medicare and social security strong, survivable and sustainable. and when president reagan and speaker o'neal, democrat and republican, joined hands on social security, it was about making it stronger. it wasn't about raiding social security to cover tax cuts for the rich. so that's the real question. there is enormous anxiety. >> why are we even talking about this when you've got 80% of the american people who don't want to go down this road? >> there are two interpretations. number one, we shouldn't be doing it, because medicare should be discussed on
many of us who voted for it who were against the iraq war, were against credit card funding of the afghanistan war, we're against what congress voted for, americans voted for it and we have to pay our bills. >> congressional members said they met with the president a month ago and they asked him, are you going to throw us under the bus? and they're telling me tonight they were thrown under the bus. do you feel that way? >> you know what, what i'm hoping is this. when the president...
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deep cuts to the pentagon budget, and it assumes that the wars are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and, of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat of president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts of the liberals and the democrats -- neither one of these plans has a tax increase. so that is a victory in itself for the republicans, isn't it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, what do republicans really want? debt reduction or failure of president obama? text "a" for debt reduction, text "b" for failure of president obama to 622639, and you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. i thought tonight john boehner looked like a schoolyard bully who wanted it his way and no other way. and i found it interesting
deep cuts to the pentagon budget, and it assumes that the wars are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and, of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat of president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts...
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look at the facts, they don't appear to have a vast number of military involved in the operations in afghanistan or iraq. there doesn't appear to be a particular reason for why that nation should be targeted. >> well, norway does have special forces operating around kabul, has had for a long time, and has declined to remove them. and inspite of, you know, multiple warnings from zawahiri and others, and if you look at the internet buzz on the gjihad websites that is why norway would be attacked, and another possibility is that there was a norwegian magazine a few years ago that republished the danish cartoons that muslims found offensive, and that was mentioned today, even though the norwegian government apologized for that publication. there was a thwarted attack last year that al qaeda central was believed to be responsible for. so it is not as if this is something that has been pristine in terms of threats. this is the country that has seen a number of threats, and i think that also having president obama make that statement publicly today indicates that the u.s. government at least believes i
look at the facts, they don't appear to have a vast number of military involved in the operations in afghanistan or iraq. there doesn't appear to be a particular reason for why that nation should be targeted. >> well, norway does have special forces operating around kabul, has had for a long time, and has declined to remove them. and inspite of, you know, multiple warnings from zawahiri and others, and if you look at the internet buzz on the gjihad websites that is why norway would be...
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i was really struck by a cartoon this week that had the leaders of iraq and afghanistan, maliki and karzai, looking at our debt ceiling debate and saying do you think they'll ever be ready for democracy? you know, the fact is that we've got people who have been elected, house members have been elected in gerrymandered, much more partisan districts. they're more worried about being challenged in a primary than running against the democrat. you've got both caucuses now much more ideological because the census the democrats were defeated in the last round. so, this whole thing fell apart. john boehner and barack obama probably could have come together on something. they could not lead their caucuses, and boehner is a different kind of speaker. he has not the ability or the desire to go out and say this is the deal, my way or the highway. you're not going to get on this, you're not going to get on that, you're not going to have a good office. the old enforcement mechanisms, as much as we dislike them and used to criticize them, they worked. leaders could demand followship. here, there's an exi
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deep cuts to the pentagon budget, and it assumes that the wars are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and, of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts of the liberals and the democrats -- neither one of these plans has a tax increase. so that is a victory in itself for the republicans, isn't it? get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question, what do republicans really want? debt reduction or failure of president obama? text "a" for debt reduction, text "b" for failure of president obama to 622639, and you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring you the results later on in the program. i thought tonight john boehner looked like a schoolyard bully who wanted it his way and no other way. and i found it interesting th
deep cuts to the pentagon budget, and it assumes that the wars are going to eventually end in iraq and afghanistan on a date, right? now, boehner's problem with the reid plan is that it takes the big three right off the table. and, of course, the real republican two-step is to kill the new deal and defeat president obama and create more opportunities for more tax breaks at the top. neither one of these plans tonight, it must be pointed out that this is somewhat of a capitulation on the parts of...
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now wright about a man behind the suicide blast in afghanistan that killed seven kooi officers and contractors. happened in december of 2009. tell us about his role in both the cia and al qaeda. >> what's remarkable about this man from the cia's side nobody had seen him. he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his medical conditions he could get into the tribal areas. it helped us on drone strikes. started to get us very close to thinking we could take out senior al qaeda leaders. his information was really good. >> very quickly, you just said nobody had ever seen him, is that how he was able to infiltrate that base? >> when you have a good agent you go to all kind measures to protect his identity. they didn't want anybody to see him. everything was focused on trying to get in man into a cia base before anybody could see him. he had three layers of security without being searched until he was within the presence of a cia off
now wright about a man behind the suicide blast in afghanistan that killed seven kooi officers and contractors. happened in december of 2009. tell us about his role in both the cia and al qaeda. >> what's remarkable about this man from the cia's side nobody had seen him. he was recruited by another agencies the jordanians and sent to pakistan. what was really a mission with little expectations, he wasn't a trained spy. but there was a hope that because he was a doctor because of his...
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draw down afghanistan and the war in iraq. that saves money. the other one retitive systems. the f35, there was a dual engine, the projects 15, 20 years. it was killed in the 2011 budget deal. john boehner cared about that, built outside of his district. he let that stay. individual pjects like that ll go operational costs will come down. gates hada big role in yes, did. >> gohead. >>ea i think they'll center to try to cut the @@defense buet by, i don't know,@0 -- 50, 100 billion, dollars00 billion is the numbe" i've seen over 10 years. >> okay with reducing the budget? >> yes. >>worry you? china -- >> if we don't maintain a@ position of worl military superiority we won't be the number one in the@wod, check? >> if we let our economy down the toilet, we won't be number one in the world@either. and we cat afford this! >> we're not number one militaly in the world -- in @@ our -- in our circumstances. we will still -] @@not be the number one [everyone talki at once] worlds power? next 15 countries we'll still power. number one military [everyone talking at once]@@ >> nal power a
draw down afghanistan and the war in iraq. that saves money. the other one retitive systems. the f35, there was a dual engine, the projects 15, 20 years. it was killed in the 2011 budget deal. john boehner cared about that, built outside of his district. he let that stay. individual pjects like that ll go operational costs will come down. gates hada big role in yes, did. >> gohead. >>ea i think they'll center to try to cut the @@defense buet by, i don't know,@0 -- 50, 100 billion,...
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even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet. more twists in the road ahead, and we'll tell you why. overhe south pific in 1943 vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation, because it offers a superior level of protection and because u.s.a.a.'s commitment to serve the military, veterans, and their families is without equal. begin your legacy. get an auto insurance quote. u.s.a.a. we know what it means to serve. dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic center recommends the custom-fit orthotic that's best for your tired feet. foot-care scientists are behind it. you'll get all-day relief. for your t
even if we get rid of al qaeda in afghanistan or pakistan, we won't simply wipe it out in every country this is an organization that will be with us for decades, one way or another. what we have to do is try to minimize the threat as much as possible and there are positive signs that we're moving in that direction. >> okay. evan kohlman, always sobering, thank you for bring to us. >>> and lawmakers very close to an agreement. but a white house senior adviser says no deal yet....
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had he meant discretionary powers and when i see on the one hand ordering a young soldier to go to afghanistan, to fight for our country, and the next day that same family receives an order of deportation for the wife, there's something fundamentally, morally wrong with our broken immigration system. so i was there to say, mr. president, use your discretionary power against those immigrants that aren't criminals, against those criminals -- against those immigrants in this country that you know need your help. when you see a marriage and there's an american citizen, help them out. when you see young students who came here when they were 3, 4, 5 years old and they are 18 or 19 and in school and doing well, say you'll defer action. what we want to do is have a balanced approach. 1 million deportations, he made a commitment to the immigrant nation that he would allow people to come out of the shadows. that it was wrong to rip a child from a mother's arms, that's what he said when he received the nomination in denver. >> do you feel the same thing with same-sex marriages when they are facing immigr
had he meant discretionary powers and when i see on the one hand ordering a young soldier to go to afghanistan, to fight for our country, and the next day that same family receives an order of deportation for the wife, there's something fundamentally, morally wrong with our broken immigration system. so i was there to say, mr. president, use your discretionary power against those immigrants that aren't criminals, against those criminals -- against those immigrants in this country that you know...
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. >>> hello, here's what's happen ppg the top military commander arrived in afghanistan on an unannounced visit reassuring leaders thereafter a string of high profile attacks and assassinations. here at home the obama add 3i7b strags struck a deal with u.s. auto makers to more than double fuel efficiency standards it 54.5 gal miles a gallon by the year 2055. >>> a dismal week on wall street as washington wrestled with the debt ceiling debit and new reports showed anemic economic reports over the last six months. now back it "hardball." now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." watching the battle on capitol hill these past few weeks. outside interest groups have also been eager to throw stones at their opponents in this debt fight. millions of dollars spent on ad buys attacking the president, but if the country defaults and the economy suffers, don't the president's re-election chances suffer as well? eugene robinson is an nbc political analyst and an associate editor and columnist at "the washington post" as well as an msnbc analyst. >> the fact is if good things happen whe
. >>> hello, here's what's happen ppg the top military commander arrived in afghanistan on an unannounced visit reassuring leaders thereafter a string of high profile attacks and assassinations. here at home the obama add 3i7b strags struck a deal with u.s. auto makers to more than double fuel efficiency standards it 54.5 gal miles a gallon by the year 2055. >>> a dismal week on wall street as washington wrestled with the debt ceiling debit and new reports showed anemic...
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bush's policies incoming his massive tax cuts and his war with iraq and afghanistan. the projected costs over eight years, less than $1.5 trillion. for for him to say the bush administration didn't create the deficit is hog wash. for martha mccallum to say that we shortchange the veterans. we could fight more wars is outrageous psychotalk. house republicans shut down the faa while they fight to destroy workers' rights. do you know what the number is? almost 100,000 jobs are at risk but airlines are raking in the profits. [ thomas ] my sophomore year, i was pretty confused, didn't really know what i wanted to do. didn't like high school. and then i met my teacher, mr. mccooey, and that click happened. i would never have even thought about going into the engineering field if it wasn't for these ap classes, these teachers and them helping me realize that this is a major calling in my life. ♪ i didn't always know that i would like math, but now i think it'll change my life. >>> coming up, a discussion about the working folk of america. the faa shutdown is costing taxpay
bush's policies incoming his massive tax cuts and his war with iraq and afghanistan. the projected costs over eight years, less than $1.5 trillion. for for him to say the bush administration didn't create the deficit is hog wash. for martha mccallum to say that we shortchange the veterans. we could fight more wars is outrageous psychotalk. house republicans shut down the faa while they fight to destroy workers' rights. do you know what the number is? almost 100,000 jobs are at risk but airlines...
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. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. >>> we'll be right back. 8gg@ú >>> welcome back to "hardball." it's been more than two months since u.s. special forces shot and killed osama bin laden. in the wake of that success, it's easy to forget the long, hard road to get there. back in debt of 2009, the cia thought he had the ultimate double agent who would lead them to the top echelon of al qaeda but turn out to be a triple agent, buried so deeply into the cia when he detonated the bomb he was wearing he killed seven cia agents as well as himself. "washington post" national correspondent jody warrick writes an that and how the cia was duped in his new book calmed "the triple threat: the al qaeda mole who infi
. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. >>> we'll be right back....
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this is his 15th trip to afghanistan, he made his way south to a very volatile area in afghanistan. so he was expecting questions, the fact that 10,000 troops will be going home by the end of the year, 28,000 by the end of next year. but these soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines want to know will they be getting their paychecks. they're very worried about that, and it's saddening to think that on their list of boworries, rpg iegs and now will they be paid. >> they have very tight budgets. >> absolutely. some of these men and women are living paycheck to paycheck. they have fam less back home depends on these paychecks. some of these men and women who come to afghanistan volunteer because they get a slight boost in their salaries. right now they're wondering if it's worth it, because will their families get the paychecks. and those are families worrying for their loved ones and they're also worrying, will they be able to pay for next week's groceries. the men and women here are worried about that, and they know they shouldn't be worrying about that in a war zone. >> atia, thank you
this is his 15th trip to afghanistan, he made his way south to a very volatile area in afghanistan. so he was expecting questions, the fact that 10,000 troops will be going home by the end of the year, 28,000 by the end of next year. but these soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines want to know will they be getting their paychecks. they're very worried about that, and it's saddening to think that on their list of boworries, rpg iegs and now will they be paid. >> they have very tight...
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. >>> here in southern afghanistan, soldiers and marines are dodging bullets. when they had a chance to throw questions at the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, their number one concern was the ongoing debate back home over the debt ceiling. >> the checkbook is not unlimited. >> they told soldiers if the talks fail they have to fight, but they may not get paid. >> there plenty of you living paycheck to paycheck. if paychecks were to stop it can have a devastating impact and a devastating impact pretty quickly. >> mullen told marines given the state of the u.s. economy, all the services they said cut back in the size of the force and maybe even military benefits. >> we will have to tighten our belt and prioritize and make hard decisions. >> in the middle of a war zone like many americans, these service members are worried about their jobs and asking what the heck is going on back in washington? >> here's a look at today's schedule. the senate will be in at sdmoon the vote will be set for 1:00 p.m. we will bring you live coverage of all the news on the hill.
. >>> here in southern afghanistan, soldiers and marines are dodging bullets. when they had a chance to throw questions at the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, their number one concern was the ongoing debate back home over the debt ceiling. >> the checkbook is not unlimited. >> they told soldiers if the talks fail they have to fight, but they may not get paid. >> there plenty of you living paycheck to paycheck. if paychecks were to stop it can have a devastating...
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this is a war of religion in the country and not different from afghanistan, and a few less people are getting shot. but you know, we have talked on the last show about this book of mine "sex, god and mom," and people who read that book understand that religion impacts politics and you brought up michele bachmann and i read today where she was saying that she got into politics by reading my late father francisç shea's books on calling for the people to overthrow the government and unless it sent roe v. wade back to the courts for decision to take choice away from women. this element is prevalent in the united states right now, and we can't kid ourselves, because it is extremism under the form of christianity. >> thank you, frank. >>> and now, like the fall of communism, some are beginning to suggest that multiculturalism has had the day. in the last few months a number of world leaders from prime minister david cameron in the uk to chancellor angel la ameria mm germany have spoken of the fall of this. and just as europe have developed a single currency and tried to be a unified union
this is a war of religion in the country and not different from afghanistan, and a few less people are getting shot. but you know, we have talked on the last show about this book of mine "sex, god and mom," and people who read that book understand that religion impacts politics and you brought up michele bachmann and i read today where she was saying that she got into politics by reading my late father francisç shea's books on calling for the people to overthrow the government and...
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. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. fiat bought the remain is u.s. shares in the company. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. >>> we'll be right back. this past year alone there was a 93% increase in cyber attacks. in financial transactions... on devices... in social interactions... and applications in the cloud. some companies are worried. some, not so much. thanks to a network that secures it all and knows what to keep in, and what to keep out. outsmart the threats. see how at cisco.com cisco. years ago, my mother taught me. and over the years, i've taught my family. we've created so much here together. so when my doctor said that over those years my high cholesterol was contributing to plaque buildup in my arteries, i listened. and that
. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. fiat bought the remain is u.s. shares in the company. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing...
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presence overseas in afghanistan and iraq which the republicans did in their own budget presentation here in the house. >> it is as confusing as you say, and we are still waiting to see how this matter will be resolved. congressman chris van hollen, thank you for joining us. >> good the o be with you. >>> and if anyone can make sense of the situation, it is our team in washington. stay tuned. ♪ operator can you help me ♪ help me if you please jeff, lunch! uh-huh. jeff! honey, i can't walk any faster. [ female announcer ] oscar mayer deli fresh turkey comes in a clear pack... [ cellphone beeps ] [ jeff ] ooh. thanks hun! [ female announcer ] ...so the freshness you see is what you taste. ♪ it doesn't get better than this ♪ helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with three strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. just don't feel like they used to. are you one of them? remember when you had more energy for 18 holes with your buddies. more passion for the one ya
presence overseas in afghanistan and iraq which the republicans did in their own budget presentation here in the house. >> it is as confusing as you say, and we are still waiting to see how this matter will be resolved. congressman chris van hollen, thank you for joining us. >> good the o be with you. >>> and if anyone can make sense of the situation, it is our team in washington. stay tuned. ♪ operator can you help me ♪ help me if you please jeff, lunch! uh-huh. jeff!...
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they say that's for norway being involved in afghanistan and for defaming the prophet mohammed, et cetera, et cetera. there's been so much damage done. who will look at this and try to copycat this? are there other people out there who are going to look at this and say, hey, it worked. we can do this. let's do it again. >> how does this translate in terms of the kind of security we need to take here in the u.s.? >> i can tell you right now that law enforcement in this country is looking very seriously both at the kind of targets that were targeted here, and more importantly, what right wing extremist groups in in country are planning. if you remember just a few years ago, there was this whole had you been loo over monitors the right wing extremists. there are extremists of all dircht flavors. just because you believe in one thing or another doesn't make you less deadly. >> thanks so much for coming in. appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >>> still ahead next hour, how same-sex marriages in new york are creating a bumper crop of wedding business. >>> the latest showing by mitt romney
they say that's for norway being involved in afghanistan and for defaming the prophet mohammed, et cetera, et cetera. there's been so much damage done. who will look at this and try to copycat this? are there other people out there who are going to look at this and say, hey, it worked. we can do this. let's do it again. >> how does this translate in terms of the kind of security we need to take here in the u.s.? >> i can tell you right now that law enforcement in this country is...
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the original speculation was, oh, maybe this was to do with al qaeda, revenge on norway's role in afghanistan and libya, but then it turned out it was a tall, tall blonde norwegian who has been arrested as we must stress, again, as the suspect, although apparently this man was shooting throughout 20 minutes on the island and was picked up and was stopped by the norwegian swat team. it seems pretty convincing. he is at this stage still just a suspect. yeah, a nation -- absolutely a nation in shock. they can't believe it. everyone is saying this is such a peaceful country. the land of the nobel peace prize and all that stuff. now they're looking at themselves again and wondering what happened to their country. >> okay. martin fletcher, we will be speaking with you again. many thanks for the report. >>> the brutal heat wave continues to grip much of the country. how people are coping next. ♪ i used to see the puddles, but now i see the splash. ♪ i wanted love, i needed love ♪ ♪ most of all, most of all... ♪ helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with
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counting a lot of savings of things that nobody thinks is going to happen, like ten more years in iraq and afghanistan, and after you factor all that out, let's see what the plan is, but we don't have a lot of time to look at this plan, and i'm of the view at some point, if you're getting 85% of what you want, and i hope my side can do that, that's not a defeat. that's a victory, and the next day you start working on the last 15% on whatever is the next thing that the congress is going to do. we have to understand that nobody is going to get everything they want here, but we're not talking about new revenues right now. everybody is apparently talking about decreasing spending, and let's see where we can get now and where we can get a couple of months from now with a select committee that has to report back even more ways to cut spending. >> senator roy blunt, nice to have you on with us today. we appreciate your time. >> you bet. >> want to remind everybody we are watching what's taking place there now. full screen on your monitor, waiting for jay carney, white house press secretary, to come out and a
counting a lot of savings of things that nobody thinks is going to happen, like ten more years in iraq and afghanistan, and after you factor all that out, let's see what the plan is, but we don't have a lot of time to look at this plan, and i'm of the view at some point, if you're getting 85% of what you want, and i hope my side can do that, that's not a defeat. that's a victory, and the next day you start working on the last 15% on whatever is the next thing that the congress is going to do....
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money for projects in afghanistan may actually be going to insurgents. the wall street journal reports according to an audit, u.s. aid is acceptable to fraud because of limited control. the u.s. has given more than 70 being dollars to security developments in 2002. lack of oversight and the failure to take certain measurements like cash serial numbers makes payments hard to track. top xanders in afghanistan and yking cia chief general david petraeus is an optimistic assessment to the american campaign calling the afghan war fragile and reversible. petraeus says now is the time to rekindle a once, trusting relationship. >> carl, you talked about debt and the money we have been pouring into the wars over the past decade. we are spending $2 billion to $2.5 billion a week. >> it's never going to change. that's the real point. this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists?
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it includes savings from winding down the wars in iraq and afghanistan. these are real savings that cbo scores at about $1 trillion. we know that some republicans will quibble over these savings but they have no leg to stand on. but wars are the second biggest policy driver of our deficits after the bush tax cut for the conduct and the worst ads to our debt, to is undeniable that winding down the war's delivers savings. the administration tells us with the wind down, they can't prosecute -- they can count on billions of dollars over the next decade the cbo count $1.67 trillion. we know the republicans agree theythis mstath because included the same settings in the ryan budget that passed the house. they never criticized that accounting and it is hard to see how they could do so now. lastly, senator reid's proposal allows for a joint committee that has the potential to achieve deeper savings down the road. all in all, this is an offer that republicans cannot refuse. all of the cuts in center repots proposal have been supported at one point or another by re
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. >> chairman mullen is in afghanistan. he told our troops fighting there he didn't know the answer to when and where they would get paid. will the president insist that if there's a default, the troops will get paid? >> again, the treasury department -- by the way, whatever admiral mullen talked about, it's outrageous that here we are, 60 hours away from the united states of america potentially defaulting for the first time. and the reason we're here is that, particularly republicans in the house, but republicans generally had been unwilling to compromise. so, at the appropriate point, if we get to that point, the treasury department will lay out clearly for the american people, most importantly for investors, folks around the world, exactly what would happen if we default. >> i want to be clear on what the president would accept in terms of cuts, in the first stage or the second stage. in other words, that what's called in washington a trigger, which means that whatever force's congress's hand, if they don't continue to c
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muslim plotted the attack saying he wanted to "get even with the military for fighting in iraq and afghanistan." >>> new jersey governor chris christie left the hospital last night after being treated briefly for asthma. the governor says he experienced shortness of breath and lied headedness. it didn't take long for the question of a president's run to come up, of course. let's listen. >> if i decided i want to run for president, i think you know me, charlie, i'd do it, and if there were people who don't think i'm up to it, they ought not vote for me, but we're not at that stage at the moment, so i don't have to worry about it. >> every time i hear him talk about this campaign i swear it sounds like he's looking for a way to run. not a way to not run. hamlet, move over. >>> in a prime example of art imitating life, a spy novelist. major shifts in his story. the product, a riveting and very relevant new book called portrait of a spy. the author, here again. daniel silva. first of all, congratulations. "wall street journal" best-seller. number one. >> number one. >> it will catch up. >> they do
muslim plotted the attack saying he wanted to "get even with the military for fighting in iraq and afghanistan." >>> new jersey governor chris christie left the hospital last night after being treated briefly for asthma. the governor says he experienced shortness of breath and lied headedness. it didn't take long for the question of a president's run to come up, of course. let's listen. >> if i decided i want to run for president, i think you know me, charlie, i'd do...
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we're told that by military officials that he'd never been deployed to either iraq or afghanistan, and, in fact, had applied for conscience shs objective status, saying he was a muslim. >> thank you very much, pete williams, i know you'll keep us updated. >>> a lot going on in washington, d.c., clearly, including the ongoing news conference with the gop freshmen. we have the senators also taking to the floor, and there you have the chamber, where we are going to be seeing a vote a little later on today, and we're going to be hearing from john boehner early in the afternoon, so this could be an extremely consequential day in this debt fight in washington. keep it here on msnbc. i love that my daughter's part fish. but when she got asthma, all i could do was worry ! specialists, lots of doctors, lots of advice... and my hands were full. i couldn't sort through it all. with unitedhealthcare, it's different. we have access to great specialists, and our pediatrician gets all the information. everyone works as a team. and i only need to talk to one person about her care. we're more than 78,0
we're told that by military officials that he'd never been deployed to either iraq or afghanistan, and, in fact, had applied for conscience shs objective status, saying he was a muslim. >> thank you very much, pete williams, i know you'll keep us updated. >>> a lot going on in washington, d.c., clearly, including the ongoing news conference with the gop freshmen. we have the senators also taking to the floor, and there you have the chamber, where we are going to be seeing a vote...